We’ve been told that the school yard (edited: was year) fence at Parkland middle school is a rock wall.
Does anyone know how tall it is? Obviously it was scalable by a 6th grader.
We deserve better
Brutus
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City of El Paso debt=$2,670,400,000, county and school district debt=$1,600,000,000. Total $4.27 billion. Your share $19,350
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What is a “school year fence?”
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Oops! I meant yard.
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Seriously “anonymous”? Don’t be an ass!
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At least I was polite, which is less than I can say for you and your schoolyard name-calling.
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Here are some map shots.
My guess is they went over the fence bordering Minuteman St since Loop 375 is essentially open to that corner of the school.
The poor design of the fencing on the Minuteman St side creates step-ups from inside the campus plus the majority of the fence run appears to be about 4 feet and less on the campus side.
So the fence height that the kids went over was probably about 3 feet maybe a little less due to the poor design.
1. Corner of Minuteman and Loop 375 looks about 4 feet tall compared to the residential fence across the street.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8986796,-106.3962451,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdFXyjBgLHp6UdmhjkAcWGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
2. The hybrid fence adjacent to the rockwall on the corner of Minuteman and Loop 375 creates a step for the adjacent rockwall. There is no safe pedestrian crossing for Loop 375 at this corner of the school.
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8989415,-106.3963821,3a,15y,180h,80.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suDSqPZEZPO7xTHdMuTvS3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
3. Further in on Minuteman closer to the football field is a rockwall with a gate. Wall is shorter on one side and slopes in making the fence shorter on the campus side. The wall appears to be about 4 ft and shorter on the campus side because of the slope. The gate creates a step over for the wall
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8981859,-106.3963642,3a,37.5y,270h,87.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4Vky0d4pY19oEzePdSZWbg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8980926,-106.3964038,3a,30y,270h,83.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spol0D20Ew8toTz6tO-0OKA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
4. Further in on Minuteman and closer to the football field is a rockwall that appears to have been a short wall that was extended creating another step fence
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8975063,-106.3967522,3a,30y,279.62h,88.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sc9Tq14y7hkDVRG_uhhxQlA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
5. Another view of fence from Minuteman
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8986796,-106.3962451,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdFXyjBgLHp6UdmhjkAcWGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
6. Loop 375 is very open at this corner
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8986796,-106.3962451,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdFXyjBgLHp6UdmhjkAcWGA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
7. 375 and Minuteman – no pedestrian crossing
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8987929,-106.396234,3a,75y,80.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2TOQH-gUuSMt6y4S_Qf2pw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
8. Safe Pedestrian Crossing at Bonarc
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8983635,-106.3993209,3a,15y,94.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6eXYPwfaf2Gss7nBSRxWeA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
9. Football Field
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8983635,-106.3993209,3a,30y,90h,94.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6eXYPwfaf2Gss7nBSRxWeA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.8982702,-106.3993208,3a,75y,90h,94.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-nUX83wgA7Hpx7SHx65b-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Thank you!
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Wow. Nice work.
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Nice work. Even where there are pedestrian crossings, very few people in El Paso use them. Both adults and kids in El Paso prefer to walk across traffic rather than walk 10 yards to use a safe crosswalk. It’s a function of laziness and a total disregard for even minor laws that are designed to protect them. So it’s silly to waste big money on building more overpasses and underpasses, which they are talking about doing on Mesa.
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Overpasses on Mesa? At which intersections?
Seems like the only intersection that might work would be an overpass on Mesa over Resler.
The median and businesses in that area might have enough Mesa frontage to accommodate
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They are said to be considering overpasses or underpasses at several places from UTEP and Kern out to the west side and not necessarily at intersections. Lots of people refuse to walk 10 yards to use the crosswalks at intersections, so it’s useless to spend more money at those intersections.
The solution is for EPPD to enforce the existing law against jaywalking with the same vigor they enforce vehicular laws.
I’m betting that the Montecillo developers will get one to connect their developments on both sides of Mesa and it will be paid for with your tax dollars.
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Thanks for the info.
Excuse the expression but the over/underpass “idea” it totally boneheaded .
It is absolute nonsense to even think about accommodating jaywalking.
The intersections in the UTEP/Kern area are relatively close together, so there is really not enough room to build a span much less an underpass. And if they did it would totally kill the businesses along the route, and completely disrupt access to the adjacent neighborhoods in the area.
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I agree!
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