Response to Rookie error?

From Jim Tolbert:

Item 13.1, which would exempt the City from being required to meet the “dark sky” standards, appeared on the May 17, 2016 agenda. It was merely an introduction of the amendment to the lighting ordinance. The actual vote on the proposal is on the May 31, 2016 agenda – Item 27.1. I will raise objections to it and I will not vote for the amendment.

This particular amendment was just one of several updates to the Building and Construction codes. I was briefed about these updates without mention of specifics. Fortunately, because of the vigilance of Elpasospeak, I was made aware of the nature of this particular amendment.

Government works best when it is transparent and the public is not only informed but vocal. Thank you Elpasospeak.

Jim Tolbert
City Council Representative District 2

12 Responses to Response to Rookie error?

  1. The Gods punish us by granting our wishes says:

    I am amazed at how you Tolbert fans can give him a pass. He had 5 days to read the City Council agenda. I read the agenda. My neighbor read the agenda. My dog is almost smart enough to read the agenda. There’s no briefing needed. Just read it. Stay on top of things El Paso Speak, because apparently Tolbert is going to depend on you to read the agenda for him.


    • Anonymous says:

      Note that Tolbert said the briefing was not specific. This is the crux of the matter. Staff does not provide details and Council members do not ask. This emboldens the staff and they continue to leave out information. I was taught that sins of omission are still sins. Meanwhile Council exempts the city. Is the city not in compliance now? Which locations? Will this exemption encourage businesses to ask for variances from the ordinance? You bet. If the City does not uphold its own ordinance why should anyone else?

      Liked by 1 person

      • The Gods punish us by granting our wishes says:

        Agree. If this is an issue that Tolbert cares about he would not take staff’s “briefing” as his only information. Hasn’t he been following all this? He wrote about it extensively on his blog. He should have hit the floor running and he didn’t.


  2. Reality Checker says:

    Next thing you know, city council members will vote to give themselves and the city manager diplomatic-like immunity so that local laws and ordinances do not apply to them.


    • mamboman3 says:

      Well they said the amendment on the lighting ordinance was up for the vote on yesterday’s meeting 5/31 but there’s absolutely nothing in the paper about it. As usual we’re left in the dark.


      • mamboman3 says:

        I guess Dark Sky also applies to leaving El Paso’s public in the dark. No mention of what happened with the vote on this. Some of us thanked Tolbert prematurely? If a vote was taken and if the amendment still passed over Tolbert’s opposition, then we’re left with the same old Dark Side of City Council doing their dirty deeds.


  3. Anonymous says:

    Good for the NO vote. The Dark Sky ordinance is in place for a reason: it is good for our city. No reason the City should not follow it. By the way, unless I am mistaken, the original ordinance has the provision that all exterior lighting affected by the ordinance was to have been in compliance by 2015.

    Liked by 1 person

  4. mamboman3 says:

    I support the NO vote on this amendment. Hope enough of the other council members will stand up against it at TODAY’s meeting also! Thanks, Rep. Tolbert.

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Deputy Dawg, we don’t really care who he is “relying on.” The important thing here is that he is aware of public sentiment on an important issue, and he is acting accordingly. I don’t care where he gets his information, as long as he gets it.

    Liked by 1 person

  6. Deputy Dawg says:

    On the other hand…He is relying on a local blog to do his work for him:
    “Fortunately, because of the vigilance of Elpasospeak, I was made aware of the nature of this particular amendment.”

    If that is the case of all city council, one wonders how much stuff slips by because they dont read local blogs…


    • Helen Marshall says:

      That was Jim Tolbert’s first day on the job, and the council meeting went from 8 am to 6:30 pm, so it is understandable that something slipped past him, particularly if city staff did not explain well. His compliment to El Paso Speak was a gracious gesture.

      Liked by 2 people

  7. ManintheMoon says:

    Thank you Mr Tolbert for standing up for the people of El Paso and not the good buddies of some on the CC.

    Liked by 3 people

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