City above inspection

We were told the other day that the city sometimes does not have its construction projects examined and approved by city inspectors.

Individual homeowners and commercial owners do.

Can anyone confirm this?

We deserve better


12 Responses to City above inspection

  1. ripper1951 says:

    First hand knowledge- had a roofing and an HVAC installation that were “passed” because of lack of inspectors. Talked with a city inspector who told me frankly most of the construction, commercial and residential, are passed without actual confirmation of structural, electrical or mechanical conditions due to lack of inspectors. There is a 5-7 day inspection window, I am told, that must be met or the project continues without interruption.

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    • epkamikazi says:

      I recall the same answer when I called about the AC installation in our previous residence.


    • chucogeek says:

      What you dealt with is completely separate from City projects. City projects have a different group of inspectors and inspections than residential or commercial projects. City projects are stricter about their inspections because they are connected to approving pay applications from the contractors.


  2. epkamikazi says:

    I spoke to a city residential inspector once regarding issues I had discovered in my newly constructed home (electrical wiring, gas appliance exhaust stacks, etc) and was told that they rely on contractors to perform the inspection. I assumed that he meant contractors to the city and not the building contractors themselves…


    • No, it was building contractors they “rely” on. Certain local builders have bad reputations for cutting corners, and they continue to get away with it because the City has let this area of responsibility lapse, just as they have done with our sorry streets and with storm water drainage.

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  3. Lets see if I can answer the question. El Taxo is a city run by corrupt POLITICIANS, Public Officials. THEY are not subject to the same LAWS, RULES, REQUIREMENTS as US “Stupid, ignorant peons”.

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  4. chucogeek says:

    The problem is that the city has taken an attitude that it’s your responsibility to make sure your construction is up-to-code. Their inspections are considered a “courtesy” but if you read the fine print the City puts all responsibility (and more importantly liability) on either the property owner or whoever pulled the permit. Gone are the days when their inspectors were experts in their fields they’ve gone to combo inspectors who do inspections for everything and you can tell because they have a tendency to miss a lot (or they get hung up on some minor detail that doesn’t mean anything). City projects probably have some of the strictest standards in the City because the City inspects them and verifies that the work was done correctly prior to approving pay applications. They can still miss stuff but at least those inspectors (not the same ones who do residential and commercial) have a specific list of items that need to be there and since the City has pretty strict warranty requirements they can drag contractors back as many times as needed to fix something so they tend to behave a little better (some will still try to get away with shit but they know if they get caught they’re likely to spend a fair bit of time fixing any corners they cut)

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    • ripper1951 says:

      City projects may have standards, but the standards can be lowered and many times are. I would be surprised to find out that the concrete used in the new Southwest Park is truly high commercial grade of load bearing quality. And the code is so ambiguous as to responsibility and liability that it will take Philadephia lawyers years to pursue damages when they occur.

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      • chucogeek says:

        Actually most City projects that I’ve seen do actually perform tests on concrete to make sure it has the proper strength and they collect the delivery slips where the concrete company indicates what they are delivering. The thing to remember about City projects is that they pay ridiculously well so a lot of companies don’t have an incentive to cheat unless it’s totally secret or impossible to verify. Why risk a good thing (City contracts) for a piddly amount of $$? Some contractors might be sloppy with how they pour the concrete so they can get done faster but they usually won’t use the wrong stuff. This has nothing to do with the “code” (which isn’t actually all that vague if you’ve ever read it) but rather the contract documents like the specifications, technical specifications, and plans. In general whatever has the strictest standards is what everyone follows (even if you are comparing between plans, specifications and the code). Contract documents spell out responsibility and liability for City projects. As far as Residential or Commercial projects the City straight up says “not us” and leaves the property owner or whoever pulled the permit or did the work to be the liable party depending on who has the better lawyer.

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  5. epkamikazi says:

    Slightly off topic but I have utilized the EP311 app to submit requests for several issues. It amazes me the difference in responses you see to requests from different parts of the city. Just last week I submitted 2 complaints regarding a large (8 – 10 house) sized lot here on the Far East regarding overgrown weeds (tumbleweeds) and illegal dumping (Rockwall and cement debris). Both had the status changed the following morning as “Completed” with the comment that they were not in violation. However, by the criteria listed in the city’s municipal ordinance website, any weed or growth above 12″ is in violation (some of these were above 36″) and meanwhile the city relies on Texas state criteria for illegal dumping, measuring by weight and/or area while deleniating property owner responsibility.

    Apparently city employees believe the citizens are too stupid to search the internet or even read.

    Since December 2016 I have documented numerous instances of EP311 complaints (weeds, dumping, street lights, ADA access) being “completed” the day following submission. Representative Noe’s office has been provided this info and has been working diligently on it, recognizing both the EP311 dismal record, as well as the negligence of developers and builders to maintain their properties, specifically within areas already developed yet nothing changes.

    So, the failure is not just within the building codes… It’s pretty much anything the city touches! How long before the splashpads fall into disarray from neglect?


  6. Haiduc says:

    Pool inspectors always find something NOT in compliance 😦


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