EPISD bonds–silver medal

If they had an olympic contest for the highest tax rate in the nation it looks like El Paso would come in at second place in another year or so if the EPISD bond issue passes.

In Climbing to the top we wrote that El Paso taxpayers only had to clmb over an effective property tax of 2.675% in order to be higher than Milwaukee.  The report we got our numbers from put us at 2.640%.

The city, county, and hospital district are working hard to get us a silver or gold too.

We deserve better

Brutus

20 Responses to EPISD bonds–silver medal

  1. Judy Maddox says:

    I DID NOT GET MY EL PASO SPEAK TODAY 08-23-16

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  2. ManintheMoon says:

    Oh if you missed the CCC meeting today it looks like the shake down by them is on. Vero and company are playing the typical game of not really going to tell us how much their tax rate will finally be this year until the last minute. Then again hardly any one is watching so what do they have to fear. Oh and you are about to start paying for the losses of UMC had with CH. Did any of you really believe Vero and the CCC that you would not have to cover the losses for that fiasco. If so you were gullible!

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  3. Rodney Fender says:

    Maybe it is time to become Republican, Independent , Tea Party or something other than liberal socialist Democrats???

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  4. Rodney Fender says:

    And just like Detroit and other cities where the tax rate became intolerable and people just stopped paying property taxes or left and the city became BANKRUPT so shall El Paso. Those that reap the benefits of our property taxes but do not pay accordingly shall break the backs of those that work for a living. Time to change from a property tax based system to a sales tax based system where all pay their fair share.

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  5. Reality Checker says:

    Follow the link below to read a cautionary tale about misplaced education priorities and how school bond money gets repurposed for insane things, including to fund cost overruns. The cost overruns will sound very familiar. Expect the same from EPISD. The EPISD CFO was in charge when the cost of the downtown ballpark was wrongly estimated and then soared out of control, and now she is will be in charge of the biggest bond financing and spending in the history of El Paso. Failure has its rewards.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/08/22/texas-high-school-football-stadium-price-tag-balloons-70-million/

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    • Rodney Fender says:

      Just VOTE NO on the EPISD bond!

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    • Broke Taxpayer says:

      EPISD already did that. It diverted bond money two years ago that voters were told would go toward building a new high school and used it to build new football stadiums. The same aging and deteriorating facilities were around then. Why didn’t they use that money to fix them? The current CFO was on the Board of managers, which by the way, was led by a so-called staunch fiscal conservative Republican who wants to be our mayor, Dee Margo. And some of these trustees who approved this huge bond proposal happily cheered the new stadiums instead of fixing schools. Now they cry for the poor children? Fool me again? Hell no!

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  6. Chico says:

    Good point Dawg. We should blame others for our situation, rather than take responsibility for our own decisions.

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    • Reality Checker says:

      Like it or not, some of Dawg’s points are spot on and the problems he mentions are the result of weak representation and being out of step with the Republican-controlled state government. The reason El Paso has received more money in recent years is because some local heavy hitters started giving wads of cash to Perry. Texas and especially the Perryites are very proud of our pay-to-play system.

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      • Chico says:

        Reality, you’re right. Even as Democratic community in a Republican state, we can still send people who can negotiate with the other side (versus alienating them).

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  7. Your Friends at City Hall says:

    We’re going for gold. We want to be #1. We’re not stopping until our tax rate is the highest. Unlike the Olympics, we’re not going to wait another four years to get there.

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  8. Tickedofftaxpayer says:

    If we weren’t constantly have corruption trials and failures in just about every taxing entity, it would make sense to question state funding. If they gave us more our leaders would waste that too. Why not consolidate school districts? Most major cities have one district. Why not consolidate the city and county? Those are steps that would show taxpayers there were serious efforts to cut costs. Instead our empire builders compete to see who can own the prettiest ivory tower.

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    • Rodney Fender says:

      I support and would vote for doing what Ticked says.

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    • Dan Wever says:

      Tickedofftaxpayer: Please name the Major cities in Texas that have one school system.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Dan,
        Your question reflects the tunnel vision present in our community. Our local school districts are competing against each other for a shrinking student population and now offer open enrollment to make it easier to poach students. They are also trying to “up their game” with bond issues to improve what they offer students to attract more from other districts. EPSID was discussing advertising. Competition among districts for teachers is raising salaries. Siloing a bunch of school districts in a common geographic area creates redundant overhead structures while reducing economies of scale that could be achieved if one entity was doing all the purchasing. In short, right now the combination of a shrinking student population and multiple districts that serve that population is increasing taxpayer costs and siphoning funding that might be otherwise used for educating students. It doesn’t matter what other districts in Texas are doing.

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      • Open Your Mind says:

        Dan,

        For an self-proclaimed independent education management professional, you’re really friggin closed minded. In almost every comment, you look only for things that you deem wrong or want to disagree with. It’s almost like you love giving low grades; teachers and former school board presidents know best; the student can never be right. You can’t even find it in you to agree with Ticked that some of the many duplicative government expenses might be eliminated.

        Regardless whether Ticked is wrong about other large cities having only one school system, there are other major markets that have consolidated city and county government. Government isn’t just about the school systems. If consolidation can work in other areas of government, it can work in education. I know for a fact that some medium-size markets in other parts of the country have consolidated what were once city and county schools.

        If you do your own homework, I think you will find that Texas is unique in its huge number of independent school districts. The proliferation of independent school districts is a result and holdover for how Texas grew. Because so many ISD’s were the right solution decades ago, doesn’t mean they are the best solution now, especially when these geographic areas, which were once separated by unpopulated areas, now all run together. Just because other cities haven’t rolled up their sleeves and done the hard work to restructure an expensive, burdensome system, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. We should strive to be better, not the same.

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  9. Two things: One, what happened to all those billions and billions of dollars that the Texas State Lottery was supposed to generate for Texas Schools? And, two, what is it going to take to get the word out to the public that the biggest waste of tax dollars, bar none, has to do with top heavy administrators, who have no clue as to what is really needed in the classrooms, leading to humongous waste in every school district?

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  10. Deputy Dawg says:

    Maybe if the state legislature would do a better job at allocating funds to municipalities, and changing the antiquated funding systems for public education our effective tax rates would not be so high. Just saying that yes, the local entities do tax us, but maybe the root cause lies in Austin and with the crazies in the GOP and the Tea party that run that madhouse and have been running it for decades. Travel to any large Texas city other than El Paso would quickly demonstrate that state funding is not allocated evenly. (Didn’t El Paso even have to sue the state a couple decades back over the way transportation funds were allocated? Surely you don’t think that it was just TxDOT that has been giving us the leftovers all these years. In fact, I suspect any city in Texas that traditionally votes Democratic is given the funding scraps. We have weak legislators that do not fight for us, we have a rigged system that favors the Dallas-Austin-Houston corridor, and we have a city that has a low economic base because the few industries we had picked up and left in the 1980’s and went to Mexico or China and were never replaced.
    We have leaders that have no vision both locally and at the state level, so we are left with what we are left with. Until the rules change in Austin, our local taxes will keep going up.

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